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Interview
with Albert Lindley Witherspoon Jr. (Thourough VET) |
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Thourough
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Afritopic: Music fans would like to know more about 20 D.
Could you tell us about yourself and the goal of the group?
Albert:
The goal of 20th District is to make an impact on
the music industry, not only in
Germany
but also
in the whole of
Europe
and the United
States of America. I think
that we have started making this impact in a modest way within
small circles of music lovers. There are many people in the
music industry that make music just for commerce. They are not
really into the art and do not have any passion for the music
art. I love music. I feel music. I am into the art of music
making. I see myself as an artist, dedicated to the music art.
These characteristics also apply to other members of the
group. When I met Rome J and J. Lourenzo, I knew that we have something in common; the passion for making
music. We get together almost daily, working together in the
studio to create good music. The input of each of us in the
group makes our music rich and unique. We go out to the
streets to introduce our music. We perform live in clubs to
let the public know that we are genuine.
I
came to
Germany
through
the
US
military.
All I knew about
Germany
was what I
saw on 2nd world war videos and television
programs. I could only relate
Germany
to war.
So, when I was told in the military that I had to leave for
Germany
, I thought
that was the end of my life. I arrived in
Germany
and stayed
in the military barracks with other fellow
US
citizens.
While taking a walk soon after my arival in Germany, I saw two Black brothers walking by.
They had portable stereo equipments on their shoulders.
I heard Black music coming out of the loudspeakers. Then, I knew that coming to
Germany
would
definitely not be the end of my life. Black music is
international. My music is international. My music is the food
of my soul. It is my music that keeps me going on. Other
members of the group have similar experience. Rome J was in
the
US
military
and J. Lourenzo was in the Angolan military in
Africa
. We have all experienced exploitation by our own
countries. We were practically forced to fight for what is not
worth fighting for. Now that I am out of the military, I have
decided to fight for what I believe in, for myself, my family
and my loved ones.
When
I left the military, I started a small business to give me a
financial footing. I was in the business for 10 years during
which I was also making music. I had a feeling that the
Lord was directing me to music. The time has now come for me
to take this direction and concentrate fully on music, which
is my greatest passion. It is the Lord that brought the
members of the group together; Rome J from
Virginia
, J. Lourenzo from
Angola
and I from
North
Carolina
. He made
us come together for a purpose. We are here to make good music
and we want to get our message across to the people all over
the world. Music is fun. Music is entertainment. We want to
entertain people and let them have fun too. I am happy
whenever I meet people who have listened to our music and tell
me, “Hey, your music is great”. Though, our popularity is
still local, we hope to reach an international audience and we
are working diligently to achieve our goal.
Within
the group, I am more of an old school rapper and lyricist. I
have witnessed the transitions in Rap music from the
beginning. I prefer to stay real and compose Rap music with
good lyrics. I try to paint the picture of what motivates me
with words. My lyrics consist of these words. I can rap but my
colleagues can sing a lot better. I cannot sing. I give my
best in whatever I do. If somebody is motivated through the
impact of my lyric, then I know that the lyric has positive
effect. I motivate myself because I am of the opinion that
self-motivation is important. However, I do not want to be
labelled a motivator. Sometimes, I use provocative words. This
is due to the fact that provocation is sometimes the effective
method to get your message across.
I
grew up in the hood. But I grew up with the good values my
grandmother taught me. Due to the reputation of my grandma, I
was spared the influence of bad characters and hoodlums. I
grew up to respect and value the family. I am taught to
respect the elders. And I do respect erderly people. I am
telling the younger generation to respect their elders. This
is a fundamental issue. My family and loved ones are very
important for me. I take care and support my stepdaughter as I
take care of my own children and everybody in the family. We
are a family with very strong family bond. Moreover God plays a big
role in my life. I believe in God and have faith in him. He
gives me and my family happiness. When I meet people who talk
about hopelessness, sadness and lack of motivation to live, I
tell them that I am happy to see a new day. I am happy to
breathe the air and enjoy the sunshine. I praise the Lord that
I am alive. End
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Interview
with Thomas Elst
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Thomas Elst
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Afritopic:
How did you meet 20th District and why did you
decide to manage the group?
Elst:
I met the group coincidentally. Someone who was acquainted
with the group and knew that I am operating an event
management business approached me. He discussed with me the
exposure and management problems the group was having. After
the discussion, I arranged to meet the group. I met the group,
listened to the music and was instantly convinced
of the high quality of the music as well as the
professionalism of the group. I offered to take over the management of
the group. At first, the group was sceptical of my offer due
to the bad experience they already had. The scepticism induced
long discussions and negotiations. However, knowing that I
have been in the event management business for over 20 years
and have contacts in the German music/show business, the group
accepted my offer and we came to an agreement. Since then we
have been working together like a family. We have open and
constructive arguments. Each member of the group contributes
his specific music talent and I contribute my extensive
experience in the German entertainment and event management.
Afritopic:
Are you dealing or managing a Black group for the first
time? Do you have problems due to language barrier?
Elst:
Not really. I have worked together with other groups
consisting of people from different countries including
African countries. Nationality or skin colour does not pose
any problem to me. My English is not so good. This sometimes
cause communication problems. In such
situation, I give a signal and we resolve the problem in a way
everyone understands.
Afritopic:
Would you say that there has been a positive
development for the group since you took over?
Elst:
I manage the group to the best of my ability. As far as I know
the group is satisfied so far with my engagements as the
manager. Only the
group can assess its music and tell whether it has developed
further. Every member of the music group should be able to
tell whether he has gone through a positive development as an
artist.
Afritopic:
The music business is not so easy. Could you tell
us from your experience the situation of the music business in
Germany
and the
success chances of 20th District?
Elst:
Generally speaking, the music business means selling as many
copies of released records as possible. Some years ago, music stars
were hard working, creative people with real music talents. These music stars were able to
stay on the market and sell their records because of the high
quality of the music they produced. Today, we have a different
situation. Due to the availability of computers, electronics
and diverse media channels including the Internet, almost
anyone could produce music. Depending on the financial
capabilities, lobby, promotion and sponsoring power of the producer, untalented
people could be made music stars. This makes it difficult for
the general public to differentiate between talented artists
producing high quality music and those who are not. Moreover,
good music might not have the chance to compete on the market.
Another issue is the rapid and dynamic changes in the music
business. Style, taste and music direction change fast. In
many cases, when I introduce the group 20th
District to some producers or entertainment managers in
Germany
, I
encounter reluctance to accept the group. Sometimes I was told
that the group is highly professional and very good but German
songs are the selling hits at the moment, so the music of the
group would not sell. Sometimes, the reason for not accepting
the group was that members of the group are over 30 years old
and the public wants to see younger artists. Neither the group
nor I is discouraged by all these difficulties. We know that
the group produces very good music. With time as we gain
exposure and popularity, more people would appreciate the high
quality music of 20th District. We are all
motivated to continue producing innovative music and I am sure
that we would have our market share in the near future.
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Interview
with Jerome Gammon (Rome
J.)
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Rome
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Afritopic: From your experience so far, is the family
important for you? As member of the group 20 D, what is the
content of your music and what do you want to achieve?
Jerome:
Yes, I fully agree that the family is very important.
Especially for we Blacks, the family is the only thing we have
that we can rely and depend on. The family is our backbone.
You may have friends but when things get rough and ugly for
you, your friends might not be around anymore. My mother told me
that I can always come back home to the family, whenever I
want. She raised my sister and me alone. It must have been
very difficult for her but she surely did a wonderful job as a
parent because I am still alive today. My mother was the first
person to tell me that whatever I do, I should do it well. I
am alive and working to make my dreams as a music artist come
true. I thank her for taking care that I did not fall prey to
drug abuse. Growing up in the ghettos, I was exposed to drugs,
crimes and violence. Some of the people and friends I grew up
with, went to school and church with in the neighbourhood were
dead at an early age due to drug misuse. Some went to jail
for drug trafficking or sentenced to life imprisonment for
deadly violence. I had to decide what to do with my life. I
knew that if I stayed in the environment at home in
Virginia
, I would
probably be in trouble with time. If I move out of the
environment, there are chances for me to experience something
new and positive. This would surely be better than ending
up in jail. I decided to join the US military and was
accepted. I was happy when I was told that I would be serving in
Germany
. I had
heard both negative as well as positive comments about
Germany
. I was
anxious to see things myself instead of watching all the
commercials on the TV showing flights to European countries. I
served in the military for many years and decided to stay in
Germany
with my
family after my service.
The
20th District is like a family for me. If I am
unable to go Virginia
due to
financial constraint, I could go to the group. There, I have
my brothers. In the group, we support each other. We all have
our strengths and weaknesses. We accept each other for who we
are. We try to improve on our weaknesses in other for us to
get stronger. As the saying goes, “A chain is as only strong
as its weakest link”. We work hard on our weaknesses, so we
could turn what is negative into positive. Overall, our
uncompromising effort is reflected in the music we produce. We
want people to listen to our music and understand the message.
We do not only talk about the good, sweet times in our lyrics.
We deal with different topics including our life experiences.
Our message is for everybody, anywhere in the world. In our
music, we talk about problems going on in the world today and
about social issues. We do however try to inspire people to do well
in life and not give up. We are telling people to open their
eyes, be motivated and sum up courage to fight
against injustice. We want people not to just complain but to do
something about social problems. It is time to take action so
that our children would not have too much burden to bear in
the future. We hope that people could gain strength through
our music. When we talk about poverty and underprivileged, we
are not talking about poor Blacks alone. In one of our songs
we use the phrase, “They don’t really care about us”.
The “us” is “we”. Not only the minorities. There are
also poor and underprivileged Whites. Our music is different
from most commercial music that says nothing but only makes
noise. We mix African and American experience as well as
rhythm. We would like people to listen to our music again and
again until they digest the message in the lyrics while
enjoying the beat.
As
a child, I attended the church regularly because my mother
told me to do so. I just obeyed my mother. Almost everybody in
the neighbourhood was going to church anyway. Over the years,
as I grew into a young adult, I developed relationship to God.
With time, this relationship grew stronger. I have experienced
different situations in my life that brought me even much
closer to God than I ever thought of.
The hardships that I went through have made me
stronger. My faith to God is unshakable and unbreakable. I
believe that I am here today through the grace of God. God
gives me my motivation when I am down with depression. He
talks to me and I listen to him. Sometimes when I am walking
on the street and people see me talking to myself, they might
be wondering whether I am crazy. No, I am not crazy. I am
communicating with God. I am thankful to God for my music
talent. My grandmother told me of an incident in
South
Carolina
. During
the time of slavery, slaves were forced to work on farms. On a
very hot day in
South
Carolina
, slaves
were on the field harvesting grains. Enduring the burning pain
of the heat, each slave worked in silence. Suddenly a
voice broke the silence, singing a song. Another slave started
singing the same song. Yet another followed suit until all
slaves started singing the song. After a while one of the
slave overseers picked up the song. Before long, all slave
owners started singing the song of the slaves. I am not the
greatest singer in world. I do not claim to have the best
voice. But, I have contributed to the church quire with my
talent and I hope I could spread the message through my
contribution to the 20th District music. I have my
weaknesses, one of which is impatience. I hate to wait. I want
things to happen immediately. I am working now this weakness
and learning to be patient.
I
tell the younger ones who aspire to become music artist to
have good education and get as much information as possible.
If things do not work out as planned, education could help
further. There are scrupulous enterprises that lure young ones
to call them or send them SMS over mobile phones for talent
castings and lucrative music careers. What many teens do not
realize is that they are charged exorbitant rates for the
calls they make and the SMS they send. In fact, I would advice teens to stay away
from most casting events. In many cases, those offered
contracts are misused to generate big profit for the enterprises
and left almost with nothing when they are not needed anymore.
The result is that often these teens fall into depression,
alcoholism or drug abuse. There are also TV programs and
commercials that induce the notion that it is easy to become a
rich music star with mansions and flashy cars. I can only tell
the younger ones that in reality, this is not the case. It
took me 18 years to get to where I am today. No matter what
goals you set for yourself, you have to work consistently hard
to achieve them. You have to be focused, dedicated and have a
strong mind. End
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Thomas Elst,
Rome
J. and Thourough
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Rome
J. and Thourough
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J. Lourenzo
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