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Over the years,
the basic art forms have been extended through the imaginative power of
artists worldwide. Different shapes or forms have been created by
implementing different media and objects, which inspire the viewer to
perceive art from a new level of thought. An art work titled Black
Box is on exhibition at the Deutsche Guggenheim in Berlin from
the 29th October 2005 till 15th January 2006. The
work incorporates drawings, mechanical/kinetic objects, animations/film
projections as well as German-African history in a fascinating manner.
AFRITOPIC was at the exhibition’s press conference and had
the opportunity to interview the South-African artist, William Kentridge
and the New-York-based curator,
Maria-Christina Villaseñor.
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Afritopic: What motives you to create the Black Box?
Kentridge:
There are two factors that motivate me. The first motivating factor is
the formal aspect, the shape. This is made up of the projection, the
theatre and the mechanic/kinetic objects. The second factor comes from
the question, “What is the work about”? It has to be about something of
interest. In this case, it is about the historical issues combined with
the technique and the form applied to produce the historical art piece.
Afritopic: How did the work evolve?
Kentridge:
It
evolved through a series of failures. In the beginning, I started with
painting but realized that I was very bad at painting. I could draw
quite well but my paintings were simply disaster. I thought of becoming
an actor and gained admission to an acting school in Paris. In Paris, I
discovered very quickly that I would be a terrible actor. I decided to
go back to South Africa and started working in the film industry. I
tried a career as a film designer. But I had to admit that I was not
very competent to make headway in the profession. So, I had to leave the
film industry. I was conscious of my failures. I have tried three
different professions and failed in all. I had to start again. I went
back to my studio and thought of combining my drawing skills with some
of what I have learnt in the film industry and the theatre to create new
forms. Moreover, I studied African history and politics at the
University. I was in the University during the day and in the evening I
attended the art school. I am interested in topics concerning the root
of the world, the historical movement of the world and particularly but
not exclusively in African history. What history taught me was to
understand the world as a process that continues to change with time
through movements. Everything moves as the world keep on moving. From
this perspective, animation becomes a good metaphor for history. The
integration of history into animation and mechanical kinetic presents a
melting point of my academic studies and my interest in arts.
Afritopic: Which experience that has influenced the way you start your
projects would you share with upcoming artists?
Kentridge:
The
best works I have done are those I started with open mind. I now try to
maintain the open mind approach to what might develop from my
undertakings or projects. I do not try to envision what or how the end
result would be or look like. This attitude spurns me to initiate,
implement and accept emerging changes in the working process. In the
case of the Black Box, I initially had an idea of using the image of
rhinoceros as a centre-figure of a project.
With the
idea in mind, I started filming without knowing how the project was
going to develop. In general, you realize that you have more knowledge
than you ever thought of in the process of carrying out a project.
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William Kentridge |
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You find out that there are things that you
know you don’t know that you know. The combination of images and sounds
unlocks other ideas and possibilities, which in turn provide more room
for creativity. The ability to be open to what your work can tell you
about yourself is very important rather than the political and personal
aspects. You can derive the raw materials for your ideas from your
dreams, desire, conversations, fears, films and so on. The sources of
ideas are within and around you. |
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William
Kentridge's Black Box (by John
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Afritopic: Now that Black Box is exhibited, do you see what could have
been done better?
Kentridge:
When an
art work is finished the artist usually see what could be done better or
improved in the work. There is the choice to take the work to the studio
and work on it again for next six months or leave the work as it is and
move on to the next project. |
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William
Kentridge's studio (by John
Hodgkiss) |
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Yes,
I could work on the film to refine and polish it, but instead of doing
that, I prefer to move on, take the next step and apply new way of
thinking to produce something new. The elements that make up the Black
Box have generated new ideas for my next project. I can imagine using
different kinds of screen, different objects, create new relationships
between objects, employ live music and novel technology to create new
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William
Kentridge in studio (by John
Hodgkiss) |
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Maria-Christina Villaseñor |
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I have
visited Germany a number of times working together with Deutsche
Guggenheim through my function as the associate curator of film and
media at the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York. I have been in
the professional field for long, starting with duties in the film
archive section and moving on to organizing art exhibitions. I have an
academic background in Arts and have done some documentary films.
However, I neither draw nor paint; I wish I had the necessary talent. I
have had the opportunity to meet different artists and help in preparing
exhibitions. The preparation for the Black Box exhibition is
particularly interesting for its richness.
The
work entails different forms of art including drawings, painting and
theatrical production, moving images, kinetic objects and music. I think
this is about all you can get in a very rich art work. |
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The most
interesting thing for me as a curator is to create a concept for an
exhibition that would entice people to visit the exhibition and present
a starting point for the visitors to form their own opinions about the
work on show. I try to give the visitors the best starting point I can
give to enable them to view the work from different perspectives.
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Due to
the complexity of the work, competences in different areas are needed;
technical expertise, design and computer knowledge for example. This
might raise some doubts in the mind of an artist in connection with the
talents of the party organizing the exhibition. Working together with
William Kentridge was a valuable experience for me. He is quite open and
we had a very good cooperative working relationship during the
preparation of the exhibition. We shared advice, opinions and
suggestions.We had to talk and did discussed about different issues
concerning the drawings, the objects, the mechanic and kinetic, the film
and projection technique as well as the availability of historical
information. For the historical part, we had to do some re on
German – African history and African colonial history with the thought
of presenting the historical information through photography and moving
images.
I
took up the responsibility to re earlier colonial films for
historical materials, which I presented to Kentridge. He would respond
and through discussions, materials were selected for use or discarded.
This was really unusual because curators are generally more involved in
the preparation of an exhibition after the artist has already
finished/developed the art work. So, it was amazing for me to be able to
bring-in my ideas and be part of the development of Black Box.
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The nature of my job is international, which
demands my travelling to different places/countries, meeting different
people and dealing with different groups of audience. As a resident of
New York, I have to be cautious that I do not bring the New Yorker
mentality or attitude into play when dealing with other people. I have
to be very open to new issues and bear in mind that I am dealing with
people with different ways of life, perceptions and languages. |
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Maria-Christina Villaseñor |
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This
requires my adapting to new mode and situation resulting from the
changes in my environment. Wherever I am, I give myself the time to talk
to the artist and the people. In discussions, I make sure that I am not
only forcing my own view points but allow other view points different to
mine. I have to be sensitive to new issues of interest, listen to new
suggestions and consider other opinions. I might say it is sometimes
hard on me but I love it all. I love my profession. |
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In
general, I focus on the artist and the art work when preparing for an
exhibition. The nationality or the cultural background of the artist is
not the main focus. It is more important to give artists space and time
for their work and allow them to learn about themselves and their
personalities. I know Kentridge and I have seen many of his drawings and
animations before working together on the preparation of the Black Box
exhibition. I found his works and the way he presents them fascinating.
In 1998 we invited him to give a lecture on a film program we were
doing. He came over to New York and gave a brief lecture. About three
years ago, we started talking about the Black Box project, which
developed into a very rich style of cooperation between the artist and
the curator. I feel very lucky to spend so much time on the project and
experience such a benefiting work relationship. The project gave me a
first hand knowledge of how the artist, William Kentridge works. |
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I have always been fascinated by colonial history.
My family comes from Mexico, which has her own history of Spanish
colonialism. Colonialism and Imperialism are important part of the work.
But these issues should be viewed from a very broad sense. Some of the
colonial issues and implications as well as imperialism are still true
of the situation in many parts of the world today. The viewer should see
the integrated historical captions as a part of a whole art work with
different elements. It was certainly challenging to carry out the
re, especially in Namibia, a former German colony. In Namibia,
Kentridge was lucky to meet a competent archivist who helped him in
digging out relevant and interesting historical information. I am
pleasantly surprised to find special attention paid to some of the
issues in many English publications in Africa. Moreover, the activities
such as the centenary commemorations of the
Ovaherero-German war
that took place in 2004 further helped me to gain an insight of the
Namibian-German history. In terms of the timing, I have been fortunate
to benefit from these programs and all the great publications in the
media. Yes, it was a big project for both of us. While Kentridge did
more of general re, I played the role of expanding the dialogue
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Describing the work in a few words is quite difficult because there are
so many aspects to it. The work is not only multimedia as it was started
but also multi-facial. It really shows the artist’s journey in that it
is not just a series of drawings, sculptures and other elements in the
theatre that led to the Black Box. The fascinating feature is the way
all the elements including the animations and the theatre productions
are incorporated to form the Black Box leading to the creation of
dialogue between all objects.
Of
course, I very much hope that the work would be exhibited in Africa,
especially in South Africa. It is a work that is meant to open up
dialogue and it would be great to see the impact of the work on the
audience in Africa and the responses from Africa. I would personally
love to organize the exhibition there, engage in dialogues with the
people and get to know the artistic community better. I am working on
that and hope it would happen soon.
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